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verif pre achat de batterie Fortwo Ed **Aide svp**

Message par NicolasM » ven. nov. 02, 2018 4:26 pm

Batterie smart fortwo ED 2014 eval MB ** besoin d'aide**
Bonjours tous

J'ai fait vérifié l'etat de la batterie d'une Fortwo ED 2014.

Le resultat:

Charge level 95%
Capacity last mesurement: 50.6Ah
Isolation Résistance: 66 Mohm

Min Spec: 41 Ah

Les 96 cellules individuelles ont une charge:
Entre 3.651 et 3.654
valeur moyenne 3.652

Est-ce que ce sont des bons chiffres? (l'usure c'est pas une courbe linéaire, mais plutôt exponentielle?)
A quel pourcentage la batterie est elle usée si la capacités de la batterie neuve est: 52Ah.

Laissez-moi savoir.

Merci d'avance

Nicolas

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Re: verif pre achat de batterie Fortwo Ed **Aide svp**

Message par Sebpe » ven. nov. 02, 2018 7:42 pm

La réponse pourai être aussi simple que 50.6Ah / 52Ah = 97.3% ce que serai très très bon, même voir étonnant!

La batterie est aussi très bien balancée : minimum 3.651V VS moyenne 3.652V.

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Un niveau de charge de 95% et des cellule à 3.65V m'indique que c'est des cellules LiFePO4 et non Lithium cobalt.
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Re: verif pre achat de batterie Fortwo Ed **Aide svp**

Message par Sebpe » ven. nov. 02, 2018 8:16 pm

L'usure dépend de l'utilisation, des habitudes de recharge(laisser en bas de 30% ou en haut de 80% sur de longue période par exemple) et des températures d'utilisation (voir les Leaf en Arizona!). C'est très variable comme le 2e graphique dans ce lien, avec la tendance moyenne.

https://www.fleetcarma.com/exploring-electric-vehicle-battery-life-degradation-developments/

Les LiFePO4 sont 2000 cycle de rechage vs Lithium 500, mais c'est de 100% à 0. Les voitures limites les niveau de charge et décharge afin de prolongé bien dépasser 2000 cycles dans tous les cas.
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